I completely, absolutely, and utterly disagree. :)But I do see where your coming from. Here's my POV for what it's worth. We created Poser. Not the people that paid us to do so. We all suffered through merger after merger and one bad corporate decision after another. Constantly fighting for dev resources and money. The corporation has almost nothing to do with the product itself. We always fought against the fact that at Meta, Poser was just another of the 26, HSC, Meta, RayDream, Specular, Fractal, so called "family" of products. We put up more than money, we put up our time. I don't get paid extra if I'm up until 3 in the morning answering Poser related questions. It was sooo nice to be able to finally add features we wanted, without resistance, for example, we never did a Carrara plugin due to red tape. Never could have done a Max or LW hosting plugin at Meta due to competition. But we jumped on those lightning quick as CL. And you'll see more. We felt that Pro Pack was the best way to do this because not everyone wanted or needed these features. They were the most requested but we wanted to sperate this to give existing users and potential customers a choice. Most of our users don't own Max or LW or even do animation. But if you want 4 pane views and a setup room the option is there also. I have already stated elsewhere on this forum, and we will publicly state on our Web Site that if something happens to CL we will post a free updater to eliminate the copy protection. Thanks again for your posts. **************************** Steve Yatson Product Manager Curious Labs Http://www.curiouslabs.com ****************************