Bah you're daffed man! I have 3dstudio and character studio. Do you know how much that stuff costs? Plus the learning curve on max and CS are huge. And try animation master. Sure it has better renders but again the learning curve and lack of support are enormous. As a pro I wouldn't use Poser. It makes no sense. If I'm a pro CS and max or lightwave or Maya would do so much better for the animations plus you would use high end models for pro jobs. What Poser does i give the common guy who doesn't have $1500 or more the ability to create something real and rather good in a fair amount of time. If anyone has seen my stuff, I really don't do use any other packages except poser and maybe max for props. With the immense community out there supporting poser most of the pic above was done with Volup Vicky, some collected props and some personal props.