jjsemp. please... it won't be the end for me at all. I never said I would stop using poser. Afterall, I am here in this forum hoping P7 will be good. You can predict me staying regardless of what version I use of Poser. I may get P7 for free when P9 comes out, or if the 7 reasons make it worth my while. I don't think there is anything wrong with speculating about P7. That is what humans do. But why do some people take it so seriously or personally? We are only talking about software. It's not religion or politics or your mom beryld, I agree animating with Poser's bad bends is lame. And a lot of people may not like the content or the program and never post at all. It works both ways and is impossible to predict.