You know, part of any relationship is trust. Unfortunately Metacreations conduct has a lot to do with that trust when it comes to poser as a program. I invested a lot in Metacreations products and bought into their promise of reasonably priced upgrades. I thought that this meant that if I put my pennies in the bank I would promote the r&d and the life of hte product. In my opinion this security thing has come along right after Poser has been upgraded "formally" and as a customer base CL has to recognize that there is still mistrust about the here today gone tomorrow metacreations mess. I for one think that as a Poser user, I am willing to invest some trust in CL since they have really gone out of their way to recognize us. The business aspects require certain security issues to be addressed, and maybe it is possible that CL will be able to do a better job than did Metacreations in keeping track of its users. Maybe I am wrong here but I think one of the keys to this problem is to identify the legitimate purchaser from the warez-theif. The purchaser should have some sort of unique identifier that is traceable or verifiable somehow, and I think it is reasonable for that uniquely identifiable user to be able to re-install for the purchased use as many times as needed. If we need to pay extra to use the program on a network that should be part of the licensing price(s) not the dingle-dongle issue. My serial number should identify my license-purchase-through upgrade history. Unfortunately after Metacreations there has been no history per customer. CL now has to build some way to seriously identify the future upgrade users..I don't know maybe the solution needs to be in the manner of distribution....maybe it is not anymore a problem of the program but of the continuation of the license...we could be faced with the "club" license approach, that the program itself will self destruct unless re-licensed....it for a period of time....bottom line is that CL has to pay its employees, rent, electricity and worry about whether or not they can continue to pay these expenses and continue to develop the product. We are in a "relationship" that is called a license for use of the program....it is a bit too soon for CL to expect the poser user to trust that any "security" measure will upgrade them out of having the program at all. This is a critical issue in my opinion...maybe the answer is not in limiting the license...it is the here have the program for free because you need our upgraded features which will cost you approach. We seem to want to have new stuffy, models, textures and as a legitimate poser user maybe the way to support CL is through the income generated from smaller cost enhancements rather than a big ticket upgrade-security-nightmare. ?? just a thought.