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Expensive compared to what? Max out of the box is $2600, then you spen $1500 on CS, $200+ each on 5 or 10 more plugins. Oh yeah- no 3D models of consequence either- that cost $300+easy for each model. Good luck doing character animation in Max, & learning in your spare time. I'm sure there are cheaper apps than Max, but there are more expensive as well. People do not appreciate how tough creating quality 3D characters of any measure of photorealism is to create & animate, clothe,etc in other apps. And how many hours of developement & debugging are we suppose to get for less than we pay now?? Programming is very time consuming. I love Poser.