cool i will check that site out. and i know characters, i have created tons of poseable figures with no problem (my dark crystal characters, among others, are up for download) the thing is, i always create the CR2 in poser by simply adding the figure to the library, after that i dont have a need for the OBJ, problem with that strategy of course is, once you have the figure all set up and posed, if you put the texture on it and notice ANY mistake... guess what, you have to completely break up the model and pose it, set joints, etc all over again... yuck