Primal opened this issue on Oct 23, 2006 · 732 posts
Hypernaut posted Wed, 25 October 2006 at 5:01 AM
Everybody in enrighted and encouraged to their opinion and so am I, but why are you guys always mix facts with opinions, guesswork and twisted half-trues? Start learning to argument based on facts (called reasoning) and not on individual experiences and opinion that might be in contrast with the rest of the world. Leave senseless destrucitve blaming behind and make productive suggestion of improvements - as I do! I also like quite some things not about this site here, but what I do, is I tell them in a neutral way what problem there is, why I think it is a problem (note "I" - this is subjective matter - and I am aware of it, and I don't think the whole world revolves around me and I learned to cope with it), and then - and now comes the most important part - I make suggestions, give ideas,hints and inspiration on how to solve this matter. Of course I also express my anger and concern to e.g. speed things up BUT in a civil, mature and unpersonal way AND my focus and main goal is always to find the SOLUTION!
Here a little example: you buy a car which is real lemon, but statistics show that this car is actually quite reliable - then the owner of that lemon is very much is angry and starts ranting about how bad this car company's cars are when in fact his experience was an exception. So he needs to put his experience into the whole context! He is entitled to be angry (and compensation in this case), but not to defame the company!
some points:
1.) this might bruise some egos here BUT when a TOS Violation letter is sent out then this is standard form! So noone is harrased more then someone else!
2.) These letters are in no way personal nor do they judge the work technically, artistically or in any other way - they just state the fact that an TOS violation has occured - so why do you always take it personally???
3.) Why do you always kill the messengers? That's absolutely UNFAIR! We only do our job as good and torough as possible, trying to apply and enforce the rules and procedures the company gave us.
4.) when TOS letters are sent then this is never done on the judgement/opinion of one single staff member but on the consensus of at least half a dozen staff members - so the results should be consequent and equal.
5.) when a child nudity violation we NEVER accused anybody of doing child porn in any way - that's the sole and subjective impression (or perhabs bad conscience?) of this guys complaing in that way - so I really can't understand how they get this idea - also see point 2.)
we actually often say it is a pity that a picture has to go because it is good or something fresh BUT if it is against the TOS then we have follow procedure
6.) this is a private site allowing you to post your images for free IF you follow the owners rules -
this is not a public place where you can enforce and enttitle to govermantaly laws ! When you visit a friend and he denies you the entry of his bedroom, then you have to accept it, even if you think he is prude or wrong or whatever - but it is his decision to make!
So I hope this little insight helps you understand the processes here at Rendo
oh and ignis:
Quote - And no, you guys dont educate anyone about the child nudity guidelines. Ive read the rules themselves and they are quite vague (not to mention nearly impossible to locate, esp to someone who is new) There is too much room for error and admin/mod opinions. On the other hand, making no nude aiko across the board would be much more simple methinks... and would also leave no room for error.
The TOS named clearly "Terms of Service" containing the child nudity guidelines is directly on the front page - how much easier can we locate - please make a valid realizable suggestion to solve this matter!
WHAT in these rules is vague? Which points needs clarification on what ??? That's what the staff needs to know in order to change something for the better?
and to prevent some people specualting I am telling this only because I am a staff member: here some points you might consider:
Renderosity Staff
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vision ! [:-
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Diejenigen, die es nicht besser wissen ! [:-