Ron If you want examples I give Anthony my permission to show you or tell you directly that in fact the Poser Pro Pack was being circulated by e-mail. If you would like a screen shot of the Poser Pro Pack on freedrive contact PhilC. He has one. That site was shut down. You may wish to also speak to Bill Bay about this problem. You would be shocked at who some of the culprits are. I will not mention their names. I further do not see any great inconvience in the security measures Curious wants to implement. To me their only other alternative would be to significantly raise the price of their products. Ron