Quote - ....Post art.i am sorry you think i am having a tantrum....If you read it that way..i didnt mean it to come off like that..

Well hello there... I was afraid you'd run off. You certainly don't have to apologize; I was the one who flew off the handle about it. You have every right to lodge your complaints the way you see fit. I perceived it as a tantrum based on the way it was worded; all we have to go on about each other is the words we write.

Quote - it is still very frustrating..but the facts remain...the majority of people i deal with here are unhappy (to say the least) with what this place is becoming ,,very prude in its nature, and it wasnt like this before..

That's very interesting to me... the majority of the people I deal with here are very happy about the way the place is run, and thinks the place is just becoming better all the time. It makes me wonder how much of our knowledge of the other people's feelings are real and how much is colored by our own perceptions. At the very least, we certainly hang out with different people.

[quote[weller i have to agree with you, that guy is here to show off his intellegence..

Well, yes, but that's only a side benefit. My main reason for being in this thread was the same reason you were here; to vent my frustration. My guess is you see your frustration as being valid and important, whereas mine is, well, something else. I don't know for sure, obviously, but that's my guess. Now, if by "here" you mean at R'osity in general, my main goal is to help other people out and to get help of my own from time to time. I wandered into this thread because, like you, I was irate about something. I've continued to post in the thread because I'm stubborn, full of myself, and I like to get the last word in.

I can't help being what I am, and I don't really have any way to change however smart I am or appear to be (despite many protestations from other people to the contrary over the years). We all are what we are, and I don't know any other way to be, really.

Quote - is already sure that i am a baby just venting in my tantrum..

Now, the only thing I've really said that can be said with surety about me is that I hate temper tantrums. Even though I perceive that you were throwing one, I in no way have the idea that you are normally like that, or that you do or do not behave that way in other aspects of your life. Like Isaid above, I don't know anything about you, except what you've written. And the same goes the other direction, of course.

Quote - I'm just an old hippy that sees people being treated unfairly (myself included)and would like to help..but i am not sure if saying anything here has really helped with the usual forum antics defusing it..

Okay, that's a good thing. What are your ideas for helping? You told us how you feel, and you made some generalizations about the way the rest of us are acting. You've lodged your complaint, and you had admin responses, people coming out in support, and certainly my voice of dissent. Now that that's all behind us, how can we improve things? You say you don't approve of improper images of children, and that's certainly something that you and I can agree on. But what's the answer? There are unscrupulous people in the world who would throw such images up here in a gallery just for a lark or to provoke people. How do we stop them? Who should decide what is and isn't an appropriate image to display here?

You say that you don't agree with the team. Okay, I can accept that. I might not agree with the team, either; I haven't seen your picture. But what positive steps can be taken to make the situation better? I've heard the phrase "common sense" bandied about, but that's not very helpful. Everyone's got a different idea of what's "acceptable" and what isn't.

For example, we couldn't use my ex-mother-in-law to decide. She'd look at your gallery and declare almost all of it as indecent, she'd say my gallery was a stupid waste of time, and she'd pull half the images on here out of spite. So, there needs to be some sort of rule by which an image can be pulled or not pulled. And there needs to be some sort of objective categorization, too... we can't just say an image will be pulled because it is or is not "offensive" or "indecent"; we have to try to be a little specific. And, as I've previously mentioned, we need to focus on the images themselves, not any particular character. I do a lot of my own modeling, and if I felt like violating a TOS based on a figure, I'd just make my own that didn't have a name.

So now that we're past the arguing, what do we do? How do help to make Renderosity a better place?

Captain Jack