I dunno if they would allow an anal probe render here, but I took the liberty of attaching a cartoon of what the person's face looks like during an anal probe. :lol: p.s., hoag - I mentioned I dunno why the mods allowed the guy to post 2 models from 3dcafe. the anal probe may also be from there, but I didn't download it, hence ellpro may have modelled it. but my feeling is not to be too critical of freestuff providers. if folks get the feeling that people will attack them like they did ellpro, it may discourage freestuff providers from providing less controversial items.