DraX, you said; BTW, Cheers, why ave you made this decision to not purchase from CL ever again without even waiting it out to see what happens and what the product is like? Don't you think the mature action would be to base your decision upon actual facts, rather then assumptions? Hi Drax, My decision is based on mature action. Over the course of the last few days I have sent private mail to the CL team offering my support for Poser 4 in the future, and there battle against Warez. I'm sorry if this list is a bit formal but it helps me categorise my reasons :o)...and I've only just got up (yes another late night Steve ;) ) 1. Morally I feel that it is wrong for anyone to place hidden software code on my machine. The fact that CL do not wish to tell me how to remove (and therefore loose the use of the software), or let me know where it is even after I have registered worries me. I'm sure you agree DraX, that decision is made on fact. 2. As Karen mentioned above, provisions for overseas customers have yet to be decided, and I don't trust my local reseller with tech support LOL. 2. I do not use Poser characters in my professional work as the main subject, only as a way to produce a sense of scale in the images. Therefore any extra features that are in Poser 5 or PPP, don't out way my moral belief. 3. My character modelling abilities are good enough to be included in the images that I do (even though it means more effort). At the moment I feel very sad. I know that myself and others, have tried to help CL in their efforts against Warez and many times it has been impossible for CL to close down a site. As I have said in private mail to Karen, Steve Yatson and Steve Cooper, I still think the team are a great bunch at CL, and that I can understand and support why they have brought in the security software...I just feel that it is the wrong type. Hope that clarrifies what I have said DraX. You never know, Poser 5 my have so many excellent features that I chuck my moral beliefs out the window...but I doubt it. I render outside Poser (so a raytrace engine will be no good to me), and features that would have appealed to me in Poser 5 have appeared in PPP, but I have decided not to get that. Some of us like to use Poser a bit like a chisel; a tool that you use occaisionally , but if you loose it you can always delve into your toolbox for something else, and I suspect that they will be type of customer that CL loose. For others Poser is their toolbox and can not do without it, and I have a funny feeling that they are the customers that CL will keep. Whoooops...sorry folks that post went on a bit too long. At least you woke me up DraX :O) Kindest Regards, Martin

 

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