Well I'm sticking with 4 for the time being. I have tried 5 and 5.5 and prefer to stick with the tools I am familiar with. Call me old fashioned but to my way of thinking this is about imagination rather than showing off DAZ programming ability. We all started with a shere over water which for all intense and purposes was pressing 5 buttons - if it was all that simple.......Well done to DAZ for keeping Bryce moving forward but if we could all produce images the quality of Rochr with B3........HDRI and such look really good though there are still plenty of things it doesn't do that well - still love it though!