I saw Saw 1 and 2 the other night. I had been worried about those, but they weren't as bad as I'd heard. I prefer a bit more plot to it than Hostle had, usually. I think I was hoping for something more in the "I, Claudius" vein than this was (I mean Caligula--I'm being a little ADD tonight. Not a surprise. I was knocked out most of the day.). Lot of nudity/sex/some violence but not really anything happening. See, Caligula has been spoken of in whispers and giggles since I was a kid in school being forced to take Latin. I guess it was hyped up a little much. Nef