snicker Well, cas, rest assured, at least one mod reads C&D on a regular basis. And, for the record, I'm no more in favor of invasive software protection and useless security measures than PJF is. Add overly complex protection measures to the list also: I spent $1,500 for a site copy of ConceptCad a few years ago that had a protection scheme that not only required a security code on install, but a call to the software company for an unlock code in addition. And, it was so sensitive to system changes that merely unplugging the cable on the drive it was installed on and reconnecting required a reinstall/new unlock code to get it working. The company that produces the software went out of the Cad business last year, and if my roommate and I hadn't badgered their tech support almost daily once they released that news, my $1500 CD set would now be a coaster. We may have one of the few no serial number site lisence sets of that prog around, simply because we gave them hell over their dropping the program support and shafting their customers. Effectively, every software company indulging in elaborate software protection is just agravating their customer base and not slowing down piracy one whit.

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