Thanks for the upload. I'll use it today. BTW I just wanted to say how glad I am that I discovered 'Renderosity'! I'm an old hand at PhotoShop, but a complete novice with 3D. I have begun wading through "Real World Bryce 4" by Kitchens & Gavenda and am amazed at how difficult it is to grasp this 'Bryce World' stuff. It's nice to know there's a place to drop by, lurk, and ask the occasional 'dumb' question. My only temptation will be to spice up a BRYCE pic in PhotoShop too much because that will be the easiest for me. Also... your Forum & Email response system is nifty! Also again... If I post a pic for comment, what size or limits do you perfer? I can do anything in PhotoShop. Vince