i think you should give magnets a second chance. look, there's absolutely nothing complicated about mags. all it takes is a bit of patience until you get the knack of how they work. after that you'll ask yourself how you could have made it without;) in the end mags are the only tool in poser for direct manipulation of a mesh. for a top like that...a dozen mags and one hour of work and the obj fits perfectly. let's add ten minutes for the new cr2 and that's all! my advice is: do not try to make too much with a single magnet. little by little... in this case three small steps are better than one big;) A.