One bug that bugs the hell out of me is the way Carrara renames all the groups 1 to whatever once you save a obj inside a Carrara file that you have imported, then close and reopen it. This seems to be mostly with Poser figures imported as a single group using a layers list for the textures. Just my little rant..had to rebuild the model I was working on from a saved version because I imported a poser figure to check the scaling of the model. Later Ed