I use Poser on a Mac and I am completely unapologetic about it (for application and platform)! Both of these have been subject to ridicule by various folks I know who think both of these are toys only. I have learned over the years to let it go because IMO these people just don't know what they are missing. Those, like the original subject of this thread, that get hostile should be ignored, simple as that. I don't think of Poser as an art creator. I think of it like digital photography for control freaks. :-) Think about it, when you photograph something you aren't criticized for not having made the chair, the table and the lamp in your image, nor for not having grown the fruit in that bowl by yourself with your own hands. You are noted for the lighting, the depth of field, and the composition. The same is true for Poser. Poser art, to me, is the same as a photo and I judge my own art by a photo-based standard. For me it is all about telling a story, about drawing the viewer in and most of all about feeling good about what I create. If other people don't consider what I do art, well, I say, screw 'em!!!