*"and... theres even more bits on the male to be modelled and rigged... don't envy whoever has that job...

'What do you do for a living..?'

'Well... its not a real job, I just sit at a computer and dick about all day.'"

*I had a Daz news letter that announced V4 and Girl2 earlier than Aug. Wasn't it Feb/March?
My guess with how V4 is  being presented now, M4/D4 late next year with many weeks of  dicking the PC members around before the release.