Q:"Not as long as you claim to depict the real world in your renders." wow, wow, wow, now just slow down a bit, mate... all those people with short legs, long torso, big heads, small feet etc...what about them? are the not real? shall we gas 'em effing freaks?.....c'mon ;) when you look around, how many of those deformed cripples can you see? and how many that meet the ideal in size and proportions? i guess the ratio is 10000 to 1, if not worse, right? so maybe your ideal, which, as you say, is the only one worth of being rendered, is a bit unreal? and what if i'd decide that the Venus von Willendorf is, because of some art-historical reasons, the only valid ideal? i start a thread telling people to scale their v3 to 1ft height. and then i am rude to those who disagree? what you wrote about ideal size and proportions is correct (i guess) and interesting. but by now i'd say you carry this a bit too far...