Pjz99, Thanks for the great feedback on The Decorator. I am still fighting with the lights, as you can see. I do feel a little better about these lights but you are absolutely right about the shadows. sigh I used an infinite light for outside because I simply couldn't get the part outside the window to look right and when I did that it took the shadows off everything. ARG. I think I need to start playing with the IBL lights, perhaps that will do it. It seems that for my more demanding images I can never get more than one part of the lighting right at a time. It's like with TheLifeguard, I could not get the background water, the mid-ground girls and the foreground pool all with the right lights. I think the problem is that darned light ball that the lights rotate around (in the poser UI). It assumes a SINGLE subject (ala poser 1.0) and that simply doesn't do it for complex images. Or am I missing something??? Ah well, the light war continues, LOL!