Quote - @**Tguyus : I kindly ask you to troll another thread with your unfounded drivel.

The charts and information offered here are based on centuries of scientific research.
I will not waste my time  trying to teach the willfully ignorant.
Nor will I give you a platform for self-expression.

I started this thread to educate.

If you feel the need to make DAZ aware of something, feel free to start your own thread.

If the trolling and underhanded personal attacks don´t stop, I´ll alert a mod and complain about you.

Thanks.

Stahlratte**

Well, that was not exactly a way to "kindly ask."  In fact, it was one of the more unkind requests I've seen lately.  Nevertheless, I will apologize, again but this time to you, for my intemperate use of the terms "realism police" and "realism evangelism" to which I assume you took offense. 

To be clear, I have not taken issue with your or others' substantive claims about real world human anatomical proportions.  My concern is that the thread's purpose seems to be more than simply "to educate."  After all, education always has a purpose and it is not unreasonable to interpret a potential purpose here as being advocacy for optimizing base meshes to meet certain needs or interests; particularly those of mesh users who want to create 3D models which match real life human forms, or at least what some here are characterizing as "ideal" (a highly normative term).  But optimizing meshes to meet someone's definition of "ideal" may have adverse consequences for other users, which is my central point.  Again, the prime example here is shin length and the problems I've faced dealing with shins of "realistic length".  If Daz is coaxed to alter their base figures to optimize for these "ideal" proportions, that could have further adverse effects on me and other modelers.