15 hours? Yikes!!! I just don't have that much patience. I think three hours (or so) is my longest render so far. Sometimes I just set it to render and go to bed though so I don't know but I've never had one that hadn't finished by morning. I haven't done any of the cloth effects yet... Thanks for the compliments. Just figuring out the checkbox for making shadows was a huge leap forward, LOL. :-)