Ziggie, Rendered in C4D with one SpotLite. But, you can get similar results in poser5+ The trick to Glass or any shinny surface is 2fold: Lite placement & environment map. For anything like Glass & Car paint i use a simple BW Map made of white Circles & squares on Black. It makes for pretty cool effects. Another trick one can use in case of ice or Glass Globes is to have them illuminated from the inside instead... Just restrict the lite's effect to the glass only. Just noticed a flaw in this render, there should be a thin ouline shadow of the glass projecting on the floor. hmmm.... I think the thickness of the glass is not enough. I will remedy that before i pack the final files. Anyhow, i'm off to work! Ciaos! Markus