See, Ziggie! P4 render & looks great! :-) Well, i won't compete with Traveler. So, i won't include the multiple bases & they come untextured. But, are easy to texture. They do however have the front "Plaque" for adding a text or logo... ;-) The flakes will simply be single polys floating about. BTW, Ziggie! Love your Nick! Anything to do with Z... Stardust? Bonne Soiree a tous! Markus