hello,
as someone interested in the history of the crusades, I really would like to create a knight of those medieval times.
What I need is a cloak. The DAZ's ones is okay.
And the Woodland Ranger here has an perfect cloak too.

There are many addon-items for the DAZ's cloak, but all for more fantasy-like characters.
I need a cloak more similar to the outfit of an crusader.
So I ask you for help: does anybody know a freebie (or item to buy) that has an texture for an knight templar? or an knight of the german order. A simple white colored worn/used cloak, with or without the templar's/german order's cross - that is what I need.
Maybe someone has an idea, where to get such an texture for the DAZ' M3 cloak.
Or the Cloak of the Woodland Ranger.
(Or  is there another cloak, anywhere in the shops?)

Many thanks

Holger

PS: If anybody will make such an texture: I would pay for it.

If you are looking for one that just goes over the back, to just past the waist, try DAZ's cloak included in the bard for david.   Though its for david I've had great luck with it with other figures and some manuvering.

you can remove the texture it comes with, and just apply another texture.

I think it's called a surcoat (sp?), if I remember rightly. Might help in searching..

Jon made textures for crusade era Teutonic knights with this set (but you have to have the Poserstyle suit to go with it)

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=16033

Poserstyle is no longer in action so if you don't already have that suit....

runtimedna.com has various knight suits.
xurge3d.com does also

The medieval knight armour at the link has the armour in the picture I posted earlier.

http://www.jalberts.net/francemi/3dSC/medieval.htm

thank you all!
meanwhile I bought the DAZ hodded cloak.
but a realistic crusader-texture for this item is not available.

thank you for your links and hints, I will follow the links and tips.

I already own the crusader-sets from Jon for the immortal outfit (poserstyle: R.I.P.)
but a cloak (or surcoat, thank you pakled) for the knights is nowhere availiable.
I will take a look at DAZ's bard textures as recommended by **Tiari.
**Thank you both.

Someone told me that even a newbie like me could paint a texture, because the templates are for free download at DAZ. maybe I paint a texture, but ...painting, photoshop and me... sad story.

xantor, many thanks for the link, I will take a look at this site.

to illustrate what I mean exactly with the "cloak", I will show you a picture below.
the knight in the left (Gottfried of Boullion) is wearing such a surcoat/cloak.
it is not the tabard, its a cloak over all the armor, I think, pakled's surcoat is the right term, isn't it?

thank you again

holger

The one that is front and back is called a tabbard I believe.

The one at the link I gave doesn`t have the cloak.

at RDNA, there is a tabard for M2/M3.
I bought them and it is really useful.
But it has in front and back the same length and width.
The original tabard as shown on the picture is at the back-part more like a cloak.
And exactly such an cloth of piece for my templar am looking for.

But I think, the combination of the RDNS's tabard with the DAZ's hooded cloak is nearly the perfect solution.
What I need is an templar's texture, or a simple white one, old and used after all the fights against saracens...

greetings

Holger

If you just want the cloaks for yourself (in other words: if you don't sell the result or give it away for free) you could buy the "Immortals" if the textures meet your taste and apply them to the coat by cutting, pasting, scaling and blending. Yes, that's still a lot of work but not as hard as drawing everything by yourself.

If you need simple white you could look for some seamless cloth-resourses and just floodfill the texture-template with it. There are several free texture resources available in the freestuff (recent one is jeans-cloth). It's very easy to alter the color to a muddy white in Photoshop using "variations" or the other color-shifting tools. The final realism comes with a bump-map (try to desaturate your texture and play a bit with brightness and contrast to get a fairly satisfying result).

hi SaintFox,
thank you for your answer!
yes, it is only for me and my medieval-ideas.
for a newbie it is a hard way to go in the direction you show, but I see, that it is the only way today.

but: if someone would create an texture for the DAZ' cloak, I would pay for it!

Holger

Yeah the back cloak you can use the bard and scale it to make it longer, or the romeo cloak, both work very well.

Another Idea would be to use Rubio's sheet, tho his site has been down for eons now, which is really really sad.   The sheet can be used to volumize gowns, add more "umph" to cloaks and so fourth, and works well on its own scaled and moved around.

I'd forgotten about the romeo cloak, that'll work

if all you want is white, or a color, just go into materials and remove the texture, and in the color box, just add the color you want and play with the highlight and reflections as needed :)

P.S. If you have experience in the cloth room, making either cloak dynamic really helps

Hello Holger, would you send me an IM? I'll give you my mail-adress and you can send me some illustrations showing me what you want and the template. I have a lot of seamless cloth-textures here and making such a cloak should be easy. Please tell me your version of Poser, too, so I can write a mat-pose with the matching bump/displacement settings. And no, you don't have to pay (oder wie wir sagen: is' für lau ).

Thank you all very much again!
Maybe the DAZ's Wizard Robe and the texture for "white wizard" works too?