Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: A Short Summary of Victoria 4 Evaluations Thus Far

Keith opened this issue on Dec 09, 2006 · 35 posts


Keith posted Sat, 09 December 2006 at 6:32 PM

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Now go back even further and see what people wrote about Millie/Vickie1 when SHE came out! About how ugly she was and why wouldn't all their Posette clothes fit her 😉

Ask and ye shall receive.

Behold March, 2000.  'tis prognostication that would make Edgar Cayce and Nostradamus tremble in awe!  It will certainly make the mere mortal tremble in awe!


Well, I wish they would have made her more resonably priced. 60 bucks is kinda much to pay for a new model. I can see them charging that if they gave her morphs and a T-Map. I mean they should have released her as a freebie, or dirt cheapy, and then sell her with the morphs, hair, T-map, and maybe some clothing for the 100.*


I'm not buying millie for several reasons: First, I never buy models unless I really need them (which so far has yet to happen.) Second, $60 is way too much for me even if they threw in the hair, tex, morphs, clothes, etc. Third, from what I've heard, she's not even living up to be as great as everyone hoped, save for the beautiful expressions she can make. Seems like Zygote's either getting lazy or greedy... charging too much for something that's either not done or not up to par...*


*In my opinion, it is very incomplete. Zygote has to realize that the default Poser4 Nude Female is the standard the new figure would be compared to. They inovated in a couple areas, but fell way short in others. Why? Not because it would be difficult, but because it would be less profitable.

The problem is, by not doing the standard Morphs to match Poser 4, they will be loosing sales from a lot of people who otherwise would have bought the new figure. AND, they have sufficiently alienated me, as a consumer, so that they will have to work twice as hard in the future to convince me to buy anything from them.

Some have questioned Victoria's looks, or lack there of, while others like that she looks less than perfect. It would be a moot point if you could customize her look the way you can with the default PF Fem.

Instead of creating a product that would have appeal for the broadest range of customers, by including a good selection of morphs, they have created one that has much more limited appeal.*


You know, I'd be happy with a figure that was basically the same but with better elbows...one where all the existing stuff would still work. I don't know, I'm a novice where modelling is concerned. But Zygote's tactics sicken me and so do the first wave of demo pics I've seen of this not-quite-ready-for-sideshow Millenium woman of theirs. If she represents the new millenium, then let me live in the past.


I'm really having a hard time justifying buying Victoria for this reason. I don't really NEED her. I keep wavering back and forth on buying this figure, but I'm strongly leaning in the direction of not buying her. She might become a white elephant later on. Can't even use her for a door stop if she becomes useless. I think I could put my $60 to better use somewhere else. I'd much rather add $20 and buy the dragon I've drooled over for so long, but have thusfar resisted because of the $79 price tag. I think I'd get much more use out of that instead.*


*As is, she is absolutely useless to me. To not include AT LEAST the same kinds of morphs for character individuation that come with the P4 Nude Female is just plain sick on the part of Zygote.
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I know the talent in the community exists to create a high poly model just as good as this one. I wish a few of you, rather than waste time on morphing Victoria, would spend the time collaborating on an better alternative. I would rather pay $75 on BBay for such a model, built and supported by the community, than give my money to Zygote for a very "incomplete" product.

I don't usually get this ticked, but the more I think about this, the more disgusted I am...*


Are you saying Zygote's come up with a Poser Dorkette?..........


I should have read the Forum before spending $85 on Victoria and texture map (sans hair and bikini). As noted in other posts, P4 clothing will not conform and P4 hair is not an easy fit. This should have been stated by Zygote. Consider this before purchase.


However, the P4 has almost limitless variations in character via morphs, that Millie doesn't have, and won't have for a long time to come.


*Sorry, I'm just not impressed with Victoria.....don't think it's worth $60 let alone $100......maybe if the price were half I'd be interested, but only as a novelty.....I think it would be a mistake for everyone to abandon the regular P4 figure just yet......wait until something better comes along......I don't see any significant improvements, and the bending of the joints only seems to be marginally improved.....


Are you trembling in awe yet?