Thanks for the plug, Casette ; ) Just from my own experience, Poser isn't great to animate in, but it's not too terrible, either. As a renderer it totally stinks-way too slow, and the lighting controls and shadows etc. are really pretty bad. I animate in Poser (using Daz models) but render in Cinema 4D, which is much faster (it's usually around 45 seconds to 1min30sec per frame) so you can usually render a scene overnight. It really helps a lot to have a real 3D app anyway to model scenes and props. I understand Wizardkiss's puzzlement about why it seems like there aren't many examples of longer Poser-based animations--when I thought about starting Aurora I thought the same thing: there must be other people doing longer works with Poser, but from what I have seen, there really aren't too many. After going at it for almost 2 years, I kind of understand why, but at the same time, I have to think that there are people out there with a lot more talent and free time than I have, so I'm still kind of surprised that there aren't a few more people doing this. I see a lot of really nice still Poser renders, but I can't help thinking that since pretty much any image you can render once, you can render into an animation, that not animating a cool Poser image is almost like having a cool sports car that you look at, but never drive. I think that rendering in another, faster app like Cinema 4D answers Skeetshooter's first 3 points to some extent, but #4 is right on the money--compared to the "big" apps like Maya, Poser is barely above a hobby-level app, and its users have day jobs, so you only get as much done as your free time allows. That said, what you can do with Poser-based workflow borders on the miraculous compared to traditional animation, so as hard as it is, it's still the only game in town for us regular folks, and you can do some fun stuff if you stick with it. --Tim http://www.auroratrek.com