The overlay option with Blender is a good idea. If someone did a collection of really, really good brow overlays and one-click applications of those Materials, that would solve so many things and be very useful to many people too!!! It doesn't have to be a flat color in the overlay either, there could be some creative texture fills for those brows too. But this would be a Poser and Vue only solution I think. A new transmap geometry for V4 would work for all applications, Bryce, Carrara, C4D, etc. I am picky about brows, always have been. They are so important for character creation. I even have a short-hand of the basic brow shapes and what type of symbolism goes with each. And the more I think about it, the more I really, really, want real hair brows. I think it can be done. I'm already thinking about how such a thing could work. For instance, they could include morphs for fitting them on various face morphs and expressions. Real brows would be excellent for close-up renders. (For medium and long shots, switch back to transmap/overlays and painted on brows.) Pictured is a SWEET screen cap of Cloud (or is it Sephiroth?) from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. (Click on the image to enlarge and see all the kickass coolness of real hair) bB