Quote - Dear me, touch a nerve did I Billy?

fraid not crimson. it would take more than what you could offer in words on the internet to achieve that lol

"We do a greater diservice to those who are stumbling if we cannot see their pain and make allowance for it."

sorry but i think you're confusing pain with ego

"Not neccessarilly.  It can simply speak to temporary clouded judgement.  If one were to judge the sole worth of a person based on seening them at their worst, one often can miss out those moments when they are at their best.  Some people have a tendancy to lash out in hurt or anger.  It is often at those moments that they are in most need of compassion."

where did the sole worth stuff come from? as for judging them whilst they're at theire worst, it's all one can do if thats all you see. 

"you've obviously never been badly beaten by someone you let up out of compassion and fair play. i recommend at least one or two good kicks to let them know that life is rarely fair in general or not so general terms." ~ Billy

"While the end result of a fight may at times be changed by one's humanity for someone who is an opponent is ultamitly not only weather the fight is won or lost but how a person chooses to fight that can have a more lasting effect on one's life.  It's not a question of fairness but of personal responsablity for one's own actions.  Some things we do to live and some things we do to be able to live with ourselves."

all you're doing is extending a premise to something i replied to which no longer has validity to the thread in hand thereby taking it off at a tangent to what the reply was originally intended for.
but i'll bite lol. i have no responsabilty to play psych maid to a people who suffer from delusions of grandure. i am and have always been responsible for my own actions. according to what you say so should everybody be thereby negating the need for help. you can't have it both ways. as for living with myself..i do so on a daily basis without regret

"Truelly you have a intresting sense of metaphor.  Sometimes criticism, even politily put can be hard to hear or except.  And sometimes a person is going to want to hear more then one opinion on the matter.  It may also take a little while for what you are telling them to sink in, particullarly if they feel hurt by what was said, however well intended it might have been.  That does not mean they don't ultimatly here what you are saying though.  As for someone continuing to ask for critical evaluations of their work even after becoming upset, I can only conjecture on the whys of that.  There are many possible reasons but I would hope that if someone continously asked for critical evaluations that they would thank the person for their honest opinion on the matter."

it works for me and you obvious;y understood it lol

crit doesn't have to be followed. it's an opinon, hopefully constructive but never binding. they can have, do and listen to what they want but if they ask publicly for a crit and i give it then it's given. what they do with it is up to them as long as they don't come crying about it to anyone who'll listen. this is one of the main reasons critique should never be critiqued. bad taste to ask for a personal opinion which is often what a critique is and then tell that person they're wrong. . a critique neither needs reply, explanation, condemnation or affirmation. either of which usually says more about the person being critiqued than the crit itself

"You are certianly intitled to that opinion Billy and I have no desire to spank your bottem or any other part of you for that matter.  I don't think that 3_Bad_Mice was being particularly self-centered or petulant.  She was asking for some answers to questions and explaining some of the reasons for asking and her style actually struck me as fairly light hearted and self-decrimating.  But each person is of course going to have their own perceptions on things.  That is part of what makes the world so intresting and also why tolerance and understanding are important to work for."

and you are entitled to yours crimson, shame about the spanking though.

"show me someone who warrants understanding and compassion and i'll give it by the bucketful. show me someone who genuinely stumbles instead of falling down on their own pitard and ill be the first to offer a helping hand" ~ Billy

"I'm glad to hear it.  There are certianly no shortage of people in the world who need understanding and compassion, in fact I believe just about everyone does.   I can only hope that those who stumble live up to your standards of what is and what is not worthy."

people who stumble like the rest of us don't have to live up to any expectation. it's called life and living it doesn't gaurentee us a card to the who'll help me next club. whilst i agree everyone is in need of compassion and help. i disagree that they should be entitled to it all the time which is what you imply. don't we all make judgements before we commit. arent you judging me (i don't mind btw, ) are you showing me any compassion? or am i not worthy of it

"yeah, billy, but basically, they wrote poser so anybody could produce renders of humans
on the first day of use. so anybody can do renders in poser. what separates the pros
from the masses is the ability to read the manual, to do proper lighting, proper shadows,
use the right scene and props, pose the figure correctly, do facial expressions, use hair
correctly, use clothing correctly, use the correct render settings, etc. ad infinitum.
anybody can do it, but it takes quite a bit of patience and experience to do it right
(see poser gallery here)." ~ Miss Nancy

"I know you addressed your post primarilly to Billy, Miss Nancy, but I couldn't resist a brief comment.  I think that in addition to the technical skills you mentioned there are also some other important personal traits.  Artistic vision, perserverance in the face of artistic adversity (which can take many forms), and inovation are a few.  What makes viewing different images both here and at other sites so enjoyable for me is that I'm constantly watching artist's change, evolve, and inovate their styles and subjects, and certianly it's very inspiring and exciting to see."  

is there anyone else you would like to reply to whilst i'm not being metophorically spanked lol.

billy