**"for a guy who wears a bandana and shows pics of soldiers interogating little kittens you can be a long tounged arse licker at times tom ..lmao after reading this i'm tempted to join a monkdom"**

 

lol...yeah...but even that illustrates my "experience" point.

It's been my experience that,...short declarations, leave more room for misinterpretation.

So in the interest of clarity,...taking a few extra moments to say what I mean, and NOT say what I don't mean, leaves less room for misinterpretation.( the degree of specifics fluctuate depending on the nature of the discussion though)

 

I suppose its the "Us against Them" mentality, that has become the environment here, and as one who has seen the landscape from both sides, I suppose it's difficult at time for me to be completely unbiased. But I really do try...

 

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"Here's an example. At one time, I wanted to do a Norman Rockwellish picture. It would have been an old fashioned kitchen with a cookie jar on the counter and a naked little boy stretching to try to reach up to get the cookie jar. Innocent enough, of course, and certainly not anything anyone would object to. All you'd see would be the butt. But, technically, it would violate the TOS. So I never did the picture. No, I don't think it would have caused a problem, but why take the chance."

 

This raises a very interesting point,

What is the  "motive" of the artist?

 

Is it to satisfy his or her creative needs or expression?

Or is it to post cool stuff on a website in hopes of kudos' from others?

[Or both?]

 

It saddens me Boney, to read "So I Never Did The Picture".  It's not unlike saying "Rosity is stunting my creativity because of the TOS"

In my lengthy post above (which looks like is happening again) I mentioned the alternative of "Keeping it for yourself" as an option. (Creative Workaround)

 

OR...if the bare butt "Makes or Breaks" the image, and "Must" included... perhaps you could make 2 versions...one clothed (for posting here) and one unclothed for yourself.

But to not do it at all, does not seem like an option, (unless the inspiration has long passed, and you really just don't want to do it anymore) I happen to think it's a great concept for an image.

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"On a purely off track but fun note I have to say I'm very much enjoying all the wonderfull pictures of the little animals involved in various shinanigans up.  It's provided a welcome respite from some of the hard debate.

 

Yeah...me too....it's fun and helps interject some comic relief into potentially volatile threads.

Oh and Hawkfyr just so there's no confusion I wasn't laughing at you about not posting that many images, but at the situation just to clarrify.  In otherwords the other sure way not to violate the TOS with images is to simply not post any images at all which struck me as funny in an ironic sort of way.  ^^"

 

Thanks Crimson Desire,

No confusion

Actually, My images are more tests, rather than works of art. When I get around to something "Gallery Worthy" I'll post it.

Actually I post more of my work in the forums than I do in the galleries.( and some others work as well for parody's sake)

 

Regarding you other comment(s)

"Can you imagion? If every picture in every gallery in the entire site was e-mailed first for approval?  Of course, it will never happen but can you just imagion it?  Gives me a good giggle or two to think of it and the possible results."

 

I see your point, in that "where does it stop?" when submitting images for approval. But all I can fall back on is that it comes down to common sense,

Out of the thousands of images posted in the galleries, only a relatively small amount get pulled, and many times, are of the same artists.

 

One only has to look at the remaining thousands that do not get pulled as a barometer of what is, and what is not acceptable.

 

The suggestion to submit images to the staff, was for potentially controversial images. If one cant take the time to look at the remaining acceptable art, and pushes the responsibility off on the staff by suggesting a change in the TOS is the solution, well...that's just plain irresponsible IMO.

 

Thousands of others successfully do it every day

 

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”