LostinSpaceman, I met my ex in July of 1985 and I think I was working on the 286 at the time. Also as I recall, Compaq came out with it first, actually before IBM. I said 1984. It was an estimate. I couldn't remember how long I had been using it, I just think I was using it when I met her. Maybe not. The memory's not what it once was. Maybe I was still working on the Tandy, but I don't think so. In any case, to buy that 286, along with AutoCAD, along with a B size HP plotter, along with about 4 hours training cost $12,000. At least that's what it cost the company. Maybe they were overcharged, but I saw the invoice. I assure you.