As much as I hate to concede, after reading the threads and looking at various products for V4 and Sydney, I'm going to give DAZ their ransom and buy V4. Sydney is another niche model, fine if you want your women to all look like Sydney in makeup. (And it didn't help that CP is promoting Sydney as some sort of Kill Bill/Femme Nikita bitch. There are times, in PoserLand, when I feel like I've wandered into a pre-teen sex orgy....)

Versatility was the decider for me. I have yet to see a figure (Judy comes closest, but she has other problems) that doesn't give away its origins no matter how thoroughly anyone but a master morpher tries. V4 has a truly malleable facial mesh; just the images in this thread demonstrate that.

As for ugly/not ugly -- I can't think of a more trivial issue. Beauty, contrary to the claims of California Aryan "science," is just a flavor of the month. What makes a face live is character, emotional depth, and intelligence, not proportions and skin texture. Some of the most "beautiful" women in fine art would be "butt ugly" in our self-important usage, if they came to life.

M