Ok now since others are jumping on here I've got to say something.

I'm really mystified by what's going on here. When the comment was made about the joints being aweful, I made an amusing allusion to the possibility that the speaker was experiencing reality in some altered way, because all the evidence that everyone is posting shows that V4 joints are better than V3, not the opposite.

Since the comment, paraphrased, was essentially V4 is aweful and V3 is not, that seemed like a pretty odd, and in fact provocative thing to say. I did not attack anybody.

However, I'm certain that I was attacked. Considering that I have made over 500 posts, and in almost all cases those posts have  been to help people get the most out of Poser, especially shaders, I don't get where you guys are coming from. Why are you lumping me in with a generalized rude group?

I'm not suggesting anybody has to agree with me that V4 is an improvement. However, if anybody wants to make a judgement of any kind, I believe they need to support that judgement with some evidence.

I was accused of failing to deal in facts. That very accusation is rude. The improvements in the joints have been shown. Show me the ones that justify the opposing view.

And I'm not in kindertgarten, either. :)

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