Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser is for Perverts?

Robo2010 opened this issue on Sep 22, 2006 · 268 posts


Tiari posted Thu, 21 December 2006 at 11:07 AM

Poser for Perverts?  No, hardly so.

I can't help reading all of this, without putting in my pretty copper pennies.  I've gotten nailed before as referring to my images as "paintings", and have been told that they are not.  Even though I still work in oil paint, and airbrushing on paper and cloth off the computer, I see no difference if paint is physicial, or digital with a wacom.

The fact is, blatantly, some people are fools, and make a judgement on something they know nothing about.  Its a fact of life we can debate to the hereafter.

It is also a fact, that when you slander someone or generalize them according to that foolishness, you will get an uprisen response, as we see here in these posts.

For the record, my faith if you can call it that is a "naturalist". Unlike an athiest who believes in nothing, I do believe in order to the universe and a spiritual power that goes along with it.  But it runs along science, and evolution and nature.   That said, as you can realize, I do have some innate troubles understanding the "religious aspect" of nudity, even in discussions here in these posts.   They are not right or wrong, as what a person believes is right to them.  However, it does make my commentary here, perhaps, slightly different.

Poser has recieved its incideous lable, not due to rubenesque type nudes, beautiful human anatomy study, or graceful romantic images of couples tastefully done with swaths of white flowing curtains.  No, indeed Poser recieves so much unwanted press, due to certain facts that we cannot get away from.  Just like any other medium that could be "slammed", it is very sad, but the "handful" that get out a LOT, tend to define what it is.  A sterotype that will not go away, unless, "craftsmen" of great detail make enough of a plethora of contribution to be seen to the mass public, that sways opinion.

Here are the facts that give Poser its unique reputation:

1.  It is affordable to the masses.  Someone without a shred of artistic ability, artistic eye, or vision can buy it.    It is highly unlikely that a 15 year old, male or female will just "pick up" a copy of 3DSMax.  If someone spends that kind of money, it certainly is not to "play" and make a fifteen minute render.

2.  Everyone's first renders look like hades.   Because of inexperience, and a plethora of freebies, or the inability to buy clothes for figures, hundreds of new users flood galleries of all kinds with naked, koz haired V3's.   With that kind of influx, of that type of rendition, the "same old same old" as it were, it causes a stigmata and the idea of the ever dread "make art" button fallacy.  This is not to knock the freebies, at ALL.  Koz hair is phenominal, as are the thousands of other freebies.   However, in default mode, no moprhs, no changes, the general public has seen it all before.

3.  Young boys (and  I have to admit some young girls) absolutely adore the v3 breast injections.  You have to admit you've seen your fair share of images containing a head and chest with breasts that would have saved her from the sinking of the titanic.  Though not all renders are like this, there is SO MANY of them, it spawns the sterotype.

4.  The recent upswing of CGI art.   Lets be realistic, an oil painter, who pays tons for supplies, has to clean up and spends months creating an image, might get a little "testy" about the kid next door (or in another country) making art in less than a day.  Thats bound to cause friction considering, once again, that theory of the "make art" button we all so dread.

Poser is not alone in some of its stigmatas.  Take for example "furry" art.  Thats one that takes a big hit.  I know many serious "furry" artists, yet, its the few that use it for outright beastiality images and other porn, that give the entire genre its horrible reputation.

As for "perversion", I've seen many an oil painting that would make a poser user blush.  However, oil paintings are in a more limited supply, and therefore dont "flood the market".

So there you have my shiney penny, IMHO.

It is only a matter to see if time will tell, if these sterotypes go away, or get worse.