@ angel is 'police record photo' better? anyway, i've tried and i failed... none the less i would like to draw your attention to an image pjz99 posted not long ago: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/media/folder_8/file_363156.jpg pls take a look at it and tell me what you think. @pjz99 say, do you have a bigger version of this image? A.