I dont have them I am using a demo.  I wish I did have them and I know they can not be compared, but at the end of the day, results are results and time is time. I was hoping that it would render a tad quicker than it is.   As I said above I dont mind waiting 25min to achive about the same results for a render than would take 4 min using Mental Ray.  I have seen some nice renders in Poser 6 and have been playing with poser for the last few weeks.  My expectations where that the render side of poser 7 was better optimized.  St this time in speaking I cant get a render done at all.  It gets 50% and then freezes. Im sure once the update is done alot of things will run smoother.   

As for the car, great car but I think its pusing it for poser.  Polycount is too high and theres no way at this time I have 4 hours to render one picture to see that I dont like it and sellect another lot of settings that will give me the results im after.

The price difference is huge but then 3ds Max dose everythink at  professiional level.  Modling, Rigging, Hair, Fur, Dynamics, Aninamtion, and Rendering.   All I need in my pipeline is Rendering, Hair, Cloth.  Poser does so much more than just rendering and is a extreemly good value for money, but if I cant crank thoes settings up in the renderer then im at a total loss.