JC, what I mean is I want a crisp grainy image. Yet when vue renders it softens the image at the end. I should be able to get a crisp grainy image with the render setting at the lowest. What is responsible for this effect? That is the question. How could it be lighting problem? All post effects are turned off. The materials can not cause a sudden softening at the end of a render. I've tried rendering it on all settings from preview to ultra to user and this effect can not be stopped. I've tried everything and all combinations. If I have to deselect the anti alaising box for each material to stop this effect something is seriously wrong. That would be like turning off shadows for each material instead of deselecting it in the render settings. The only thing left to do is try vue 5 and see if this problem is there too. The only reason this was noticed is I sat there and watch the entire render and saw what vue did at the end. Most people don't do this so when they see the final render they don't notice any softness. This has nothing to do with faster renders.