Malvern Despite the length of times between posts I haven't really done much with it (dinner etc) since. So while I have little to report on changes to the look and feel, I will say it seems to render a lot faster than P6. Render settings themselves have changed in a way that it would be too soon to critique. I was really happy with all the improvements that came with P6 but I had skipped P5 so there were a lot of changes for me that I had long been wishing for. All that to say it looks and feels pretty much like the same Poser. Multiple undo's and "duplicate object" those are two pretty cool new features long awaited. cheers