Here's a quick still from one of my ongoing projects rendered in Poser 7. Again, pardon the obvious light and shadow imperfections, among others, as it is a still from an animation that is still a work in progress. This took about 5 minutes at full quality setting and is roughly an 1000 x 800 image. It takes about 4,000 of these to produce a 5 minute cartoon. That's V3, The Freak and James modified to look like (facewise) friends of mine, with off-the-shelf clothing. SS