PXP opened this issue on Dec 27, 2006 · 100 posts
Fumanshoo posted Sat, 30 December 2006 at 6:42 PM
Quote - I honestly find the V4 character to be dull and boring.
Couldn't agree with you more and to be honest, all off the renders people show here in this thread (and many others) totally confirm this. V4 is very versatile for sure and probably the most versatile figure there is for D/S and Poser, but still she's very dull and boring.
She's completely missing what V1, V2 and even V3 to an extend do have, allure! The V's renders would blow off your socks at times, but that's completely lacking with V4. She's gone the route off all of the the post-M3/V3 figures. They have something new, but they lack big time at the same time. V4 just doesn't convince, she just doesn't have that what the old V's posses.
I still call her the ultimate barbie doll. Even when people attempt realistic renders she still has the barbie doll looks about here (even if she's fat). I've seen some stunning Sidney renders and up to this day I've seen nothing like it from V4. I'm not saying Sydney is better, she has the problem all of EF's figures do have, she alway will be Sydney. But still people can create some very convincing renders with her. Not so with V4, she lacks something big time.
To me V4 is looking like this..... she isn't finished at all, but since DAZ has promised her a long time ago they had to go with what they have. But she wasn't what they predicted her to be. When DAZ presented her at first and I looked at the promotional renders they have in their store, I said to myself: "This is what all of the hype is about? This fake looking badly rendered 3D barbie doll?"
She's lacking big time and DAZ knows it, that's why they give her away for free to pc members. Most of those people are loyal to DAZ and how can you say something bad about something you gained from your favourite 3D store for free? If she was really this great looking, convincing, leaving the competition miles behind, ultimate 3D figure for Poser and D/S then DAZ would have given it away for free.
I just love the way DAZ promotes here *The most widely supported 3D figure on the planet, Victoria, has received an incredible make-over. Victoria is back with greater realism
*If we all are truly honest and look at the promotion picturesDAZ shows with this greater realism incredible made over Victoria we all would agree that she doesn't look better at all and is very far from being realistic.
For me V4 belongs in same category where Posette and Dork are (the P4 female and male). If you do enough effort they may look reasonable, but people will always see that they're 3D figure, fake humans, just plain old 3D barbie dolls. And that's all V4 is good for and all of your renders are confirming that, but that's hard to admit, that's wy we see people becoming rude, attacking or getting off topic in this thread.
I can understand that. A lot of people have been hyped to the max, waiting so long for her, being convinced she would be the ultimate 3D figure and the truth isn't like that at all. She's very dissapointing, she's hype and that's hard to swallow. In the end DAZ didn't deliver and even I'm suprised by that. Even though I'm not a DAZ lover at all, they always have stood for quality and decent figures, but they sure have broken the trend with V4. I'm very suprised by that, I expected something mind blowing from all the fuzz DAZ made about here this last year and then she turns out to be very dissapointing, not the usual stunning decent DAZ quality.
I'm all for some how combining Sydney and V4 and then you'll have the best of the best.
So DAZ, you better drop the tagline 'The Best Just Got Better!' because she didn't. Even I will admit that V3 is the queen of Poserland and has ruled it for years, with no one being worthy enough to wear her crown and with the coming of V4 nothing has changes. V4 isn't worthy of being queen at all and has not earned the right to be called better then the best. She may rule Poserland one day, but at this moment she doesn't deverve to rule and she's not worth the investment needed to make here as good as V3.
So, were still waiting for a new queen and in all of the renders you guys have shown in this thread, V4 still looks like a barbie doll, not fit to be queen!
I totally get what you're saying. However, where I think you and many others are at fault is that many WANTED V4 to be THE ultimate female figure and when it failed to meet the many lofty expectations, many were greatly displeased when it was released.
I look at every figure, new or old, the same; how many add-on are available for this product, what is being proposed for upcoming add-ons and scalability in terms of supporting my expanding imagination. I like Aiko 3 as much as Aiko 19. I can utilize both in many renders. I like M3 AND D3. I'll use Jessi as well as Miki. And i'll use V4 just as I use V3. Just because V4 is the "NEW" thng to come along, it doesn't mean that she is to replace V3 as "the queen."
V4 is just another tool for me to use. If I want something sexy looking in an adult woman that doesn't have that "Amazon" with Amazon shoulders, then I'll use V4. If I WANT that Amazon look, then I'll use V3. If I want the exotic, I'll grab Miki. My point is...you can NEVER have too many tools in your toolbox!!! V4 is just another tool for me to use; another "option" to better assist me in turning my always changing imagination into 3D art.