Thanks. Also thatnks to everyone who left comments. I have no life so I have to be good at wings by now.  Wings works really well for organic things. You will need ot play with it a bit and it is a bit of a different workflow than mechanical models but the mirror tool is so good that it gets used a lot for organic stuff by even Maya users. The model is also subdivided again in Messiah. The poses were fun I am trying to get to the point where I can do some animation also which is harder than you think.

About Messiah basic rigging is very easy in it. I tried and failed in poser bu tin Messiah I made skeletons with as many as 80 bones that work. I am in the process of learnign new tricks like poses and armatures to get to where I can do some decent animation. From what I know now I think If I wanted to make easy animations I would do fish. Messiah is a very godo orgaic renderer too it does SSS fast and well. Took me a bit of work to get used to it. Anyways still will use bryce for landscapes and stuff.

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