Funny to see this still going on. I stumbled upon this site by accident tonight. Last time I was here was about 5 years ago. Why did I leave? Because I thought that this site should have changed their name from Renderosity to Poserosity. I saw in contest after contest SOOO many entries that were simply bought poser figures and clothes and objects placed in a scene, rendered, adn submitted. Being a more photoshop oriented artist I was creating pretty much 100% of what you saw in my work in Photoshop. I created 3D effects with plugins, and shading, etc. And no, it's not the same. Creating a 3d illusion in Photoshop from scratch vs downloading a 3d object and placing a light source on the stage and hitting the render button are about like comparing Van Gogh's "Sunflowers" with a Photograph of those original sunflowers. You can do really nice original work in Renderosity even with downloaded objects, clothes, etc., but that almost never happens from what I see in many of the contests. I can't quantify how to judge it, but to paraphrase "I can't tell you what makes Poser-based art original, but I know it when I see it" and really, it's not that hard at all to tell which final images are the result of download some stuff, add lighting and render vs real, genuine artistic work (or at least an attempt at it). Funny, it's been 5 years, and it doesn't look like much has changed. See you again in another 5... Brain21