i too have problems making a hair prop and one of the other guys in the character creators forum told me that you can't create hair props in poser but you can in other 3d apps. my problem is that i am new to all the 3d programs and have no idea where to start making mesh obj for hair props or anything else so if anyone that reads this has any knowledge they are willing to share or suggestions please let me know. i will be checking this forum daily for responses. and if anyone needs to know i will be using bryce and lightwave for any modling i will be doing. thanks nabue