Great idea! Animators are WITHOUT A DOUBT seriously overlooked not only on Renderosity but just about everywhere else (DAZ, Curious, etc.) David: I too enjoyed your site, I looked at every single animation. Some of them were really entertaining nice work. Also, nice tips on the use of the ground plane. I just recently discovered this on my own and am still a novice at it ... I have been using Adobe After Effects to comp everything. Looks very nice, but what a pain! Poser 5 BETTER have a "render alpha WITH shadows" option!! -Tim