oh, duh... get phillip's snakeskinz1 zip at fun stuff! (and his site is www.planet-3d.com) and while you're at capsces, check out proto man; morphs for the p3 and p4 men. and just so i'm not too altruistic, here... visit my gallery, too! http://people.delphi.com/sphynx/gallery/index.htm