I wasn't complaining about the upgrade price, I said it was a price iwas willing to pay and fair for the work we heard went into it. what I was calling attention to was the fact that the "Tech World" is rewarding those who wait and as it is experiencing now by doing that there customer base begins to wait and they start to lose capital for R&D and the upgrades.Just because something is expected doesn't mean it will always work ask anyone in the computer industery who saw there industry growth waver recently. $30 is a fair price for the v2 upgrade but will I buy the next millenium model that comes out, when it comes out or will I wait for the upgrade, that I now will be the same price? Time will tell. I've already delaid my purchase of a titanium laptop from apple because of their frequent upgrade over the last couple years. I'm not trying to be pestimistic. I'm just expressing my opinion. The Tech industry is in it's infancyas far as dealing with consumers is concerned and those who will last in the long run are those that listen and adapt to their customers needs and emotions. Daz has shown that they are aware of this and the fact that danfarr read and responded to my earlier post proves it. I'm not attacking them only making suggestions on how the can serve their customer base in the future. The poser community has thrived on it's interaction between it's product makers and consumers and that's what makes it a unique success story. Anyone who has ever tried to contact the makers of Quark know what I'm talking about.