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Subject: Poser and Japan
Quote - i hope Urotsukidoji is fringe even in Japan, its pretty far out there! and thanks for the help on joining PoserClub
It isn't. Actually, it's about right in the middle of the horror/hentai genre. And there are more genre's than you can shake a katana at. Elfen Lied intersperses utter cuteness with psychic sociopaths...and pretty accurate examples of what happens when limbs are amputated, heads twisted, off, etc. Then there's Bible Black. Evil as really evil... Any number of series where guns leave bloody holes in dead bodies, knives, swords, axes, etc. all do messily fatal things...which is one of the many attractions. Deadly weapons are treated as deadly weapons, not playtoys. Most of the -really- bad stuff can't be legally imported. Nuff said. (And like anything, 90% of any of the media is dreck. But that 10% is so worth the trouble to get at times...)
I think a part of it is down to English-speaking culture: the USA and the UK. Just go from the UK to Europe and things change. The tolerances are different. The impression I get is that a lot more Japanese animation is broadcast in French, Spanish, or Iralian, than ever gets onto TV in the UK. Here, we seem to share the commonplace US attitude that animation is just for kids.
I think the attitude towards animation is starting to change with all the big budget animations coming out recently, the movie companies are finally starting to twig what the rest of us have known for years, that animation is universal or can be in the right hands.
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YAY! Cute! I like cute! WHeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I like waffles, too! YAY!
Ooops, sorry. To much of watching Invader Zim. The Cuteness of Gir posses me. It commands me! Cuteness can be furry as hell,too. Darkly dismembering dystopian idealogues are all well and good, but sometimes life IS DYSTOPIAN! When that happens, I need some happy fun cuteness.......and tacos. I need tacos. O_O Without tacos, I might blow up. That happens to me sometimes. ^__^ TACOS! YAY!
THE CUTENESS COMMANDS YOU! OBEY THE CUTENESS!!
The Japanese do not have cuteness cornered.
I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act
together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An inconsistent hobgoblin is
the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!
Quote - I remember Urotsukidoji... I've seen it first when I was 16... Guy who borrowed me the videotape (yes, it was when people went abroad to buy anime videotapes, now they are just shopping online for DVD's) was already 18 (adult by our laws) and poor thing thought he can make me shocked, LOL. But I do prefer cute side of Japanese anime/manga/Poser stuff.
Totoro, me demands for plushie Totoro - or at least Poser figure of Totoro .
That was one of the first anime movies released in the UK, by an outfit called Manga Video, nearly 20 years ago now. All quite legal, with an 18 certificate from the BBFC, but the people screaming about corrupting our children didn't seem to notice that.
Quote - Poserclub JP... I think the instructions may need updating. I seem to have set up an ID and password. I seem able to login. But no downloads work.
If you're trying to click the text that says "Download" it's not that... if you click the picture of the item, the popup window will appear.
Also check your browser security settings for pop-up blockers and make sure file downloading isn't blocked.
Quote - somewhat off topic James Cameron is working on an adaption of Yukito Kishiro's manga Battle Angel Alita! Sounds like he's going to combine the 1st 3 vol. covering Hugo and Motoball. ^ ^
Is this some kind of secret code? Could someone translate this into the Queen's English?
DPH
STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS
Quote - > Quote - somewhat off topic James Cameron is working on an adaption of Yukito Kishiro's manga Battle Angel Alita! Sounds like he's going to combine the 1st 3 vol. covering Hugo and Motoball. ^ ^
Is this some kind of secret code? Could someone translate this into the Queen's English?
DPH
Manga= A japanese form of comic art
Battle Angel Alita= A character/series of comics
Yukito Kishiro= The artist
James Cameron= made some of the best US films ever :P
Not familiar with the series, but that's how I roughly translated it.
dphoadley @ Tilandra
Thanks. Actually, Manga I've heard about, and 'Batle Angle Alita' I think I cpuld've figured out; but what the HECK is a Hugo Motoball, and -why should any of us even care?
DPH
STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS
Quote - > Quote - This is a strange thread. I don't think anyone or any culture can lay claim on "inventing" cute. Babies are cute. Perhaps they are cute so mommies and daddies will take care of them since they are helpless on their own.
This is true even in baby animals. Baby animals such as birds and mammals are cute
because even these animals have a "cuteness" sense and that encourages them
to take care of their young. While babies of many reptiles, fish, insects
tend not to be cute because they are on their own when they hatch, hence there
is no need for them to be cute. Baby alligators are an exception, because
mother alligators do care for their young. It has even been found some baby
dinosaurs were cute, because those dinosaurs also cared for their young.
That may be the reason you hear stories about mother dogs taking care
of kittens and bunnies, they are too cute for the dog to resist.
The attributes which are interpreted as "cute" are due to neotony, which is essentially offspring being born before they are fully developed. There is a tradeoff between a longer gestation and a shorter infancy vs. shorter gestation and a longer infancy. Mammal offspring, especially primates, are born while before the fetus is fully developed. In the case of primates, including humans, this is before the offspring is capable of walking. The The generally accepted reason why we perceive neotonous creatures as "cute" is, as quoted above, so that their parents will take care of them, but the reason why those particular features are perceived as cute is due to neotony.
Quote - dphoadley @ Tilandra
Thanks. Actually, Manga I've heard about, and 'Batle Angle Alita' I think I cpuld've figured out; but what the HECK is a Hugo Motoball, and -why should any of us even care?
DPH
I'm guessing they're story arcs covered in the three volumes he mentioned. As to caring, well I like most of John Carpenter's stuff so I'd be interested in what he does with Manga material, even if I'm not a big fan of the subject matter. :D
Neotony, as described above, winds up as a pleasing arrangement of subcutaneous flesh which presents a pleasing appearance to members of the opposite sex (men) causing a short circuit in the rational process resulting to submission of tributes and adulations to (women) whose sole attribute is said arragement of subcutaneous flesh and other wise has the personality of a shit sandwich, the appetites of a pyrranha, and the loyalty of a hyenna.
Gordon
Quote - @dphaodly - Talash and Jalad at Tanagra. Besu, his eyes red with tears. Temba, at Tanagra..;) Mene mene tekel upharsin..;)
Shaka, when the walls fell! The river Temarc, in winter! Temba at rest!
I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act
together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An inconsistent hobgoblin is
the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!
Quote - dphoadley @ Tilandra
Thanks. Actually, Manga I've heard about, and 'Batle Angle Alita' I think I cpuld've figured out; but what the HECK is a Hugo Motoball, and -why should any of us even care?
DPH
Hugo is the name of the kid she falls for in this particular incarnation of her very long life. Motoball is a cyborg sport. Combine roller derby in 3 dimensions with heavy doses of Rollerball, Mad Max, and Thunderdome, and you are close. Alita turns to this after Hugo's obsession leads him to a less than happy ending. As for caring....One girl's search for her past, and finding out what she was, where she learned to do the things she can do, and why she did it/them. Also a cautionary tale about allowing either technology or politics dehumanize one. Not to mention the martial arts shit would put Crouching Tiger to shame.....
Not sure if this thread provoked a response from one Japanese PoserClub member, but she blogged about it there ( in english, as best as she could manage.) Basically, her message is that Japanese women may be depicted in renders or photos as very young, but their real ages could be up to twice the apparent age. She also mentions that Japanese culture should not be confused with Chinese or Korean culture.
Eternal Hobbyist
Regarding: the hypothesis that 'cute' is nature's way of encourage the parents to attach and nurture offspring.
This drive or urge is fully operable in the species subject to it. Without speaking for any of other species, there is another dimension for homo sapiens, namely the 'sapiens'. Man is self-aware. Man is also possessed of choice; humans must activate themselves to think and then act, by choice. Yes, the chemical drive is there, but the individual makes the choice to go with the flow, reject it or avoid it.
Some people opt out of parenting. Some become parents, feel the nurturing hormones kick in, and reject them or fight them. Many accept them and bask in the euphoric glow. Some people even chose to not actually become parents, but participate in nurturing children anyway. What's clear is: unlike any other species, the chemical/instinctual programming is merely the baseline, the default. The real story begins when the will comes into play.
Importantly: homo sapiens possess the ability to ignite or allow the flood of endorphins associated with this drive outside of parenting. The spectrum is everything from drive-by girl/guy watching to a jolt from erotic art to one night stand of sex to an extended affair to a long-term relationship to mated permanent commitment, in which couples learn to re-ignite the euphoria when it fades. All of those paths are choices -- whether parenting is sought or not. Homo sapiens is at choice about this phenomena.
The cult of cute - including Poser cute -- can thus be seen as happy participation in love.
::::: Opera :::::
I just wanted to say ThanX! I never knew of the Poser/Japan connection! I was very impressed, a bit red, and mostly agog! Yep this may have been the best thread I ever popped into! ;)
Too Cute!!!
HuggerZ!
Ariana
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Famous Japanese / Japanese Sites in Poser Community.
Please add to the list if I missed anyone! Thanks. ^^
Aoaio
APS
B-man (idler)
BatLab
BillyT
Candy
Chaya
Kozaburo
Have
Hisayan
Honey
ISOP
Jazy
Jezz
Lab108
Lafiesta
Mask-da
Milano-Aoyama
Mochi
Motsura
Quarker
Play with Poser
Poser Nightmare
Poserg
Seisui
SilverWolf
StudioMaya
Trout
Tomiya
Toshiyo
Toucan
Wapico
Yamato
Z3D
bB
oops, shoulda known someone would pick up the 1st reference..;) Figured Mista Hoadley would pick up the 2nd..;)
I need to check the above list to see what's out there. I recognize a few, some I thought were gone (Mask-da?..used to be the place for weaponry) I'll have to peruse some of these to get some good links...from the land of the rising 'question mark pages'..;) (That's how they come up in English...lots and lots of question marks..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
ThanX bastBlack I do recognize quite a few...BatLab and BillyT stand out. I had no idea! Are these all.com? I mean to find them i add .com to the names? Help me out, I am still figuring the WWW LOL!!!
HuggerZ!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
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You will be very busy for a long time. You can get rid of the question marks by installing japanese in your web browser, or you use google's translator. Just plug in the web site address: http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en Here are some more links I don't think are on the Studio Maya list: WARNING: Some sites have nudity!) Honda, yes Honda, has sweet freebies! ^^ http://www.honda.co.jp/WebPlamo/cbr1100xx/index.html 3d Chaya http://www.3dchaya.com/ blueplum http://blueplum.sakura.ne.jp/sazanami/top.htm Silver Wolf http://www.geocities.jp/metalpeach/dll/dll.html Super Heroin - Candy http://www.globetown.net/~candy/download.html Quarker http://quarker.blog5.fc2.com/blog-category-2.html Wapico's Blog http://wapidoll.seesaa.net/ Kobomax http://www.k2.dion.ne.jp/~kobamax/ APS http://homepage3.nifty.com/aps/ Milano Aoyama http://www.geocities.co.jp/Milano-Aoyama/1324/poser/DownLoad/DownLoad01.html and names I don't have sites for: Yagami Naoki bB
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Bishounen and Biseinen Addicts, get your Guys Project freebies here and also gawk at all the pretty boys:
http://lafiesta.sakura.ne.jp/
Totally shameless Man-Gawk-Fest, in the style of that particular genre.
No beary stuff though.
That is available alternatively at:
http://guma.ath.cx/props/index-english.htm
WARNING - ADULT CONTENT
Eternal Hobbyist
Does it mean I'm addicted to Japanese Poser content if I have all those links already bookmarked, most for at least a year ? O.o
Naoki's site:
http://www.katch.ne.jp/~naoki-s/top/top.htm
Yagami's site:
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~yagami/
Outdated gallery over at DeviantArt
Fics at FanFiction.net and Archive of Our Own (AO3)
Warner Bros. and MGM and of course Disney made most of the popular cartoon stuff made in the US. Also Hanna Barbara did all back in the old days. Everything is gone global now, but most of the animation I watch now says it is made in Japan. Isn't Dexter's Lab and Samaria Jack and even Power Puff Girls all animated in Japan. How many popular cartoons are made/drawn in Hollywood now? Maybe The Simpsons or King of the Hill, I don't really know for sure. What's interesting though is now animations and movies can be peiced together from all over the world. It's hard to say where it's made exactly. I think Japan can say they make there own anime and cartoon stuff. I don't know if we/US even make that much animation stuff anymore. Hollywood contracts it all out to Japan who it seems to me is the leader and place to go for animation making now. I rarely see anything that doesn't say it's not. I watch the old reruns and drive antique cars to get the real made in USA experience.
-shrug-
Call me not impressed.
Japanese Poser works have some 'cute' looks, but in terms of technical skill the English speaking community (as in, Renderosity) is vastly better.
They have nothing coming close to someone such as Aery Soul, or a number of others we could list from here, Daz, rDNA, and CP.
All they have is a set of stylized toon looks that are popular. There are a few people that once did some very impressive work with hair, but at this point in time they have been surpassed by again, artists such as Aery Soul and a number of people who sell on Daz. And this side of the Poser world has even caught up on the stylized toon looks with figures like Aiko and Terai Yuki - figures which are based around superior technical models as well. Here is where I am not sure if TY was made by the Japanese community and sold to CP or not... but even if it was, it is not as technically advanced as Aiko.
And V4 / G2 both have potential to turn out a new generation of stylized toon looks that will be even better in the underlying technical arena.
I can look at the Japanese stuff and like the look of some of their works, but that does not mean I'm going to make the mistake of assuming they have greater technical skill or artistic vision.
There is a lot of garbage in both communities, and there is a small amount of really great art over there, but a larger pool of 'small amount' here. Over there, the best of their artists are doing the same style as the worst, only doing it better. Here, the best are all doing varied styles from each other and the main community.
Also, having lived in Asia for a decade, the 'Japanese style' is not exactly Japanese - it resembles styles found in a number of other Asian countries as well.
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What I was thinking of, is how most of the people who met with DAZ in Japan also had products for Aiko3 at DAZ when Aiko was released. (That was the first time I had seem a few of them sell at DAZ.) They might have had some input on Aiko3, but that's just a guess. The Simpsons and Futurama are animated in South Korea. Terai Yuki was an Idol in Japan, -- a Virtual Celebrity. imho, It's the storytelling from Japan that is dramatically better than the offerings from Hollywood and TV in the 2000s. bB
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This is a little off topic, but actually not really....
I am considering extending my Japanese Idol website 10000 Sweet Blossoms with a rendered 3D section. The site is not currently commercial, in that the 'membership' page is disabled. You will be able to get to the images, however, no password needed. WARNING: Nudity (non-sexual).
http://10000sweetblossoms.com
If I go with this idea, I'd be in the market for rights to display idol art for commission, from artists anywhere in the world.
I'd appreciate any comments from anyone on the current state of the site. Enjoy.
Thank you,
::::: Opera :::: aka J.J.Kirnan