Mick,
Well said.  Lots of points I will remember.  Lots for me to think about.  And alot that I learned.  So well worth the whole debate for me = ).

Cobolt,
I think you are one put in a bad place here with this decision because you actually happen to have talent.  It's unfortunate that someone with your talent has to be lumped in with the rest.  Like has been said before its a case of a few bad apples ruining the bunch.  Whatever has been said - I do empathise in this situation.

I am:  aka Velocity3d