DCArt opened this issue on Jan 19, 2007 · 103 posts
kobaltkween posted Tue, 13 February 2007 at 8:21 AM
RorrKonn - no, i responded to exactly what you've said. you're actually now saying the opposite with
Quote - Ya brown suit was modeled to start with to be dynamic,yes ? Would be easy enough to make conforming,Yes ?
i believe carodan converted that outfit, but that's beside the point. in your previous post you said,
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Takes nothing to convert conforming cloths to dynamic if there modeled correctly.
Takes alot to make dynamic cloths conforming with morphs and all.Why not just make conforming cloths that you can make dynamic if you want ?
Just model conforming cloths so thay will change over to dynamic if the buyer wants ?
this is the first thing i refuted. i don't need to do it again. but i will point out that you brought up clothes that were primarily designed to be conforming and could be made dynamic after the fact. which is why i said what i did. i think some people make dynamic clothes because they're easier to get working than conforming. which isn't bad at all, but it means that a lot of dynamic clothes don't have a lot of skill and knowledge put into them. and they often seem to get treated as the easy, quick and dirty way to make clothes. people see that, and then many think that's all dynamic clothes can be. instead of trying to improve them. so i think the above is a very negative starting point for discussing dynamic and hybrid clothing.
next you said
Quote - Dynamics has limits on what thay will do. No you are not going to get dynamics with any and all the detail you can get out of conforming.
i didn't say this statement was opinion, though the latter is. i didn't say as a statement it was ridiculous. i said it's ridiculous to talk about limits to dynamics and hybrids now. it's akin to looking at the limitations of posette's joints and saying, "well, poser joints have limitations." everything has limitations, but it's absolutely ridiculous to talk about them when you've barely begun to explore the possibilities. as svdl mentioned, the whole community has been using and creating conforming clothing for years. talking about the limits of conforming clothing now, after easy pose underground, after erc, after joint controlled magnets, and after apollo, makes sense. talking about the limits of dynamic clothing at this stage is not even vaguely equivalent.
making meshes that work properly in poser is only part of the issue. and a small part at that. there's lots of details i've run into in the cloth room, and most have had nothing at all to do with the mesh.
and no, you never literally said can't. but "you are not going to get" and "can't" are so close in meaning as to be splitting hairs.
and you said limits. as quoted above. referring to that is accurate, not "unprofessional." there's no need to get heated, but people are responding directly to what you are posting and the words you are using. if you want to correct yourself and use different words, fine, but stop accusing people of putting words in your mouth when all they're doing is refuting precisely what you've posted.